Advice for starting over?

topic posted Mon, March 28, 2005 - 12:46 PM by  Royce
So, much like has happened to many people, I started with a flurry of data collection and compilation that was a little short on keeping proper track of my citations. I now hesitate to continue to maintain the lump of data I've got now, but at the same time, don't want to start from scratch and abandon my existing work.

I'm currently using Ancestry.com's software as my primary data store. Does anyone have any advice for me on how I can turn over a new, better-cited leaf?
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Royce
Anchorage
  • Re: Advice for starting over?

    Tue, March 29, 2005 - 8:55 AM
    I am not sure what you mean. When I started, it was with my parents. Dates for birth, marriage, the when and where...

    I use Family Search software to keep my records.

    Check out my sight. http:www.tribalpages.com/tribes/brendag

    This is my small collection. My other data with the whole bit on my family and the extended family isn't posted.
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    Re: Advice for starting over?

    Tue, March 29, 2005 - 1:44 PM
    I think I've been in your boat; I'm not sure I'm completely out of it yet, either. ;>

    I collected information very indisciminately when I started my research about 5 years ago. I was excited, and becuase of the wonder that is the internet I got loads of info very quickly from distant cousins and pillaged posted online family trees like a pirate. I cited my sources randomly, incorrectly, and occassionally at best; mostly taking other people's words on the integrity of the data. Pretty quickly my Reunion database (a great mac based program) became a couple thousand releations heavy, but very little of the information was cited or validated through my own efforts. Impressive in it's volume and scope, but a mess as far as focus and accuracy.

    I did two things. I took an online genealogy course through the National Genealogical Society (www.ngsgenealogy.org/Courses...se.cfm), and I got a great book on organizing your family reseach (www.amazon.com/exec/obido...558705112). Both were invaluable. The course gave me the nuts and bolts of resources and records as well as correct terminology, the book helped me organize my existing research and got me conscious of the level of detail I needed to document, and the best ways to capture and file that info. I came out of both experiences with a lofty new goal of backing up every piece of data with records from my own research.

    I did end up setting up a great filing system for myself and started the meticulous work of backing up my data with actual vital records. What I haven't been able to bring myself to do is prune my tree, so to speak, of a lot of non-relevant people. Like you said, I don't want to just retire my old database and start fresh, but I think it might be inevitable. The jury is still out...
    • Re: Advice for starting over?

      Wed, May 11, 2005 - 1:12 PM
      These are great ideas, Rebecca -- thanks for your guidance. I'll let everyone know how it goes. :)
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        Thu, May 12, 2005 - 8:07 PM
        I'm in a similar pickle. I have one file with maybe 75-100 people in it. Then, I took a COPY, and merged that in with a file from a cousin, so I have TWO files, and one has over 650 people in it. Most of the "data" is in unsubstantiated comments field, and I need to move it into the dedicated data fields. I often think about starting over.

        I use "Generations Family Tree" software. It's now a couple yers old, and I'm not sure it's still made. Yikes! One reason I stick with it: I can export into GEDCOM format, so I have a format that'll import into most anything else. I also really like its open web publishing capabilities. And, check your software. See if you can use or designate a field that indicates records which have been "cleaned" or whatever, so you can easily report on people who have data that you've checked on. Also, make sure you can easily make citations, whatever you're using.

        Also, LIGHTEN UP! Whatever you've done is probably great, and even if it's not something that would pass muster with a professional gen. society, it's probably some great information that other family members, and gen. folks in the future, can make great use of!
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          Wed, April 5, 2006 - 9:37 AM
          I use two programs, Family Tree Maker which is overall a very good program but is designed more for a persons decendents than their ancestors (taking an ancestor and finding his decendents).

          The best program I have found to do ancestry is Family Search, downloaded free from familysearch.org. (This is the LDS data files).
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      Sun, February 19, 2006 - 1:45 AM
      Rebecca, it's been almost a year since you posted these web-sites and they are no longer there. Is there any other way you can get the information out here? I would greatly appreciate it.
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        Re: Advice for starting over?

        Thu, February 23, 2006 - 2:04 PM
        The course URL is still there (tribe added some characters to the end for some reason):
        www.ngsgenealogy.org/Courses/Course.cfm

        The book is "Organizing Your Family History Search: Efficient & Effective Ways to Gather and Protect Your Genealogical Research " by Sharon Carmack - you can get it on Amazon (or similar sites). This was a few years ago so there are probably newer options out there, but I found that book to be really useful.
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    Fri, April 7, 2006 - 11:38 AM
    I started when I was in high school, so I NEVER worried about the reliability of an online database or documenting my sources. Since then I have continued to grow my tree (to nearly 1400 names) while always striving to get more and more details and sources about the closer generations. If you ever decide to "start over" never throw anything away. Just go thru each name, date, and relationship and make sure you have at least one source for every one. Family Tree Maker has the capability of reporting many alternates with a source for each one. So if your mom gave you one date for your grandfather's birthday, his WWI draft registration card gave you another, and the 1900 census gave you a month and year different from those... you can list and cite sources for them all. Then you choose the one you think is the most reliable (probably the draft card because it was filled out by him) and set that as your default so that it's the one that shows up on pedigree charts, etc. It's extremely easy to use, too.
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      Fri, April 7, 2006 - 12:31 PM
      Oh, EXCELLENT advice.

      I'm always amazed at the variations I come across. I remember my own grandmother not knowing her own brithdate! In a pre-digital age, I think many of the details that we're so exact about didn't matter "back then."
      • Re: Advice for starting over?

        Mon, April 10, 2006 - 12:36 PM
        I know what you mean. And sometimes there are other reason's too.

        My husband's grandfather was born less than 9 months after his parents wedding, if you know what I mean, and he doesn't know his birthday and neither does anyone else. His mom was sent out of state after the wedding until a few months after the baby was born. They lied about it to the extent that in the end, no one but his mother knew his birthdate and when she died, so did that information. Not that she would've told you anyway. As horifying as it is for a genealogist to realize, some people just don't care like we do.
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          Tue, April 11, 2006 - 12:14 PM
          Do you know where he was born in.There should be some record of his birth some where in there county where he was born. The county archieves would be a good place to start. Big journals with hand written entries. I found a lot of info from different county archieves.
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            Tue, April 11, 2006 - 3:15 PM
            In Washington, DC. I have it narrowed down to less than a year, but I live in Louisiana and don't wanna pay someone to do it, so I just gotta wait. However, I wouldn't put it past the family to use a midwife and get a delayed birth record and lie, ya know? Thank you for the tip. Have you had any experience with DC research? Do they even have counties? I'm worried, also, that when the family says "DC" they mean a small community close to DC, then it could be either VA or MD. Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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